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Unread Jan 16th, 2007, 08:39 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Eh? i beg your hardon?
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Unread Jan 16th, 2007, 08:43 AM   #102 (permalink)
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I think he wants to know who it was in drag??
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Unread Jan 16th, 2007, 09:05 AM   #104 (permalink)
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...and it was Brad Pitt's dialog.

Feed 'em to the pigs Phin



Apologies, didn't refer to the rules, it just meant that after Hawk's little sample-smaple-trailer his mix obviously could be easily IDed in the comp,
hence he wouldn't use them (songs, not samples).

Sorry...
I was just kidding ya! that was the little winky at the end!! all discussion is good on here
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I took a day off today. Felt a little sick in the morning, but on the bright side I'm done with my mixage.
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Ooo Hawk know's how to do it right! That is pretty sweet. Done like you do it, it comes across as a continuing track. I guess I'm really all about transitions. Most people who use samples use it to cover up a bad trasition or something they know they cant transition and that really annoys the hell out of me. C'mon its mixing not mashing. But like I said that sample is a great example of how one can pull off it smoothly. Nice job hawk, looking forward to your mix now.
Yep, agree with you there pal. All this samples rubbish gets up my nose. It seems to get used as a cover for tracks that don't work well together. Essentially, and in my eyes, - it's used as an excuse for poor mixing - ie poor track selection. It follows from this that it means poor foresight, poor planning or a distinct lack of imagination.
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Unread Jan 17th, 2007, 08:17 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Was starting to think I was all alone on my standpoint hehe
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You guys seem to forget that a sample can add intensity to the track. Take a look at Bruceway's mixes! He drops samples in at clever parts of a track to add intensity to the song or to tell a story in his mixes. One mix in particular is the one he did in Mix Comp 3 where he used Moonman - Galaxia (Solar Stone Remix) and added the George W Bush speech in the breakdown part of the track. It added a patriotic feel to the song and it was brilliant. Adding samples to a song isn't a bad thing if it's done right.
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Adding samples to a song isn't a bad thing IF it's done right.
That is exactly what we said.

...Just most of the time I believe it is not.
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Yep, agree with you there pal. All this samples rubbish gets up my nose. It seems to get used as a cover for tracks that don't work well together. Essentially, and in my eyes, - it's used as an excuse for poor mixing - ie poor track selection. It follows from this that it means poor foresight, poor planning or a distinct lack of imagination.
Im not sure if I'm being goaded here or not.
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I just hope people don't use samples as their transitions like a previous comp.
OK.. ominae..
which mix are you refering to, which transistion, and I'll certainly take a listen! As I'm sure a few others will.
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I don't remember any sets using samples to camouflage a transition or where it was used poorly in any competition. I'll take a listen again and see if that is such the case.
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i think the problem is that what people who don't like samples percieve as camoflage is seen as embelishment by those who do like samples.

it tends to appear as camoflage if poorly implemented, but i don't think that necessarily means the use of sample was a means of hiding poor mixing - that's a separate issue i suspect since most of those who use samples have demonstrated that they can mix perfectly satisfactorily in other comps.

why have we stopped saying smaples? i miss them...
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quite rught Phin! SMaples are much better anyway.. and if I use them I will be safe cos smaples rule!! I think we are getting down to personal taste agian.. if you dont like samples, dont use em, if ya do then knock yaself out.

After all, this is an open comp where we allow all sorts of stuff to enter and treat each mix on its merits. I mau be wrong but for those people that have bothered to write reviews up, I have never seen any mention of bad smaples, or over use.....Pls dont quoting me if Im wrong but it doesnt stick in my memeory.

And you really should listen to BW's space mix to see how it can be done... but I guess if we all liked all the same stuff it would be a very boring comp!

So lets celebrate our differences shall we?
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some sense is beginning to prevail!
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Yep, agree with you there pal. All this samples rubbish gets up my nose. It seems to get used as a cover for tracks that don't work well together. Essentially, and in my eyes, - it's used as an excuse for poor mixing - ie poor track selection. It follows from this that it means poor foresight, poor planning or a distinct lack of imagination.

Not to mention a fair amount of Cocaine..

I'd like to say you're better than that..

But then.. I've never been a good liar..
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Bruce,

I wasn't directly referring to yourself nor Dogfax. Do what you want, - live your lives, amigos! I'm not goading.

It happens that I don't feel constrained to express my thoughts in the way that others just wouldn't dare.

You have conjured up your own style and I think that Phineas is correct when he says that you know how to mix. That much is clear. But this isn't really about you or Dogfax. It's just about my dislike for EFX. I can't speak for Ominae but my personal preference is to play records back to back in the normal way. Like Dogfax says - it's just personal preference. I do, however, believe that some people in the mix competitions - and also the DI players - don't take enough time to think things through when they are at the arrangement stage. It's quite an arrogant thing to say but from my perspective I think it is broadly true.

My personal preference is to select only the best tracks that I can find that fit well together when I make a mix. Else I won't make one until I can. Every track needs to be a winner.

It's all Horses for courses ofcourse. We all have our personal likes and dislikes. We all think we are doing it the right way.
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Unread Jan 18th, 2007, 12:23 PM   #120 (permalink)
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