Mix Competition VIII - The No Theme Mix (Free For All)

ciscobiz · Mar 8th, 2007, 04:47 AM

THE NO RULES FREE FOR ALL RULES MIX

The rules are that there are no rules. Actually, - that’s a complete lie. Exceptions to the rules include:

a) DJ's that enter must review their peers with a discussion:

Track listing and Style:

a) DJ's and all other listeners have 6 points to allocate.

b) Complete freedom in personal judgment - award up to 6 points in total:

Example: DJ 2 - 2 points, DJ 7 - 1 point, DJ 4 - 1 point, DJ 9 - 2 points (Total 6 points).

Example: If one particular DJ rocked your boat - DJ 1 - 6 points. (Total 6 points).

Technical:

a) ONLY Entering DJ's may award up to 6 points to allocate in the same manner as above.

Other:

a) DJ's vote for themselves in the same manner. However, those points are merely cosmetic and are subtracted from the total for that DJ at the competition end. This will serve as to protect the anonymity of the DJ and prevent skewing of the results. Be honest about how it went for you. Describe where you could have improved.

b) Reviews and point allocations for the DJ's peers are posted after the closing date for entry. Each DJ should post their reviews for all other DJ’s in one go and not piecemeal. This will make it easy for DJ’s to consider the feedback given.

c) All other listeners post as and when they wish.

d) All DJ's provide a track listing and review with their entry along with the points.

e) Entering DJ's must distinguish in dual paragraphs what they are awarding their points for.

Example:

1) It was a load of rubbish what that bloke ciscobiz played. That guy shouldn’t show his face around this part of town again.
2) But I liked his style.

f) Anything up to an hour.
g) Anonymous. Any identifiable information disqualifies.
h) Submissions to Dustwave. PM him for your number and upload details.
i) Any media - Hardware or Software (Ableton, Traktor, Mixmeister etc.).
j) 128k MP3 format for all entries.
k Closing date Sunday 8th April 2007 23:59 GMT.
l) Voting closes Sunday 22nd April 2007 23:59 GMT.
m) DJ identities are revealed in the points ranking at the end of the competition.

Remember:

This is an opportunity for beginners and those more experienced alike to get together and hear some honesty in what your fellow faces are playing. Speak your mind. Always.

PhineasFreak · Mar 8th, 2007, 04:57 AM

how do we submit to dustwave exactly?

Lotz · Mar 8th, 2007, 05:01 AM

Don't be difficult wolfboy .... obviously you PM Dustwave!!!!!

PhineasFreak · Mar 8th, 2007, 05:06 AM

oh - is it a secret number/upload address given by request deal again?

and btw, Lotz - screw you! its a valid question considering the number of n00bs who aren't familiar with the process...

Lotz · Mar 8th, 2007, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhineasFreak

oh - is it a secret number/upload address given by request deal again?

and btw, Lotz - screw you! its a valid question considering the number of n00bs who aren't familiar with the process...

OK I accept that as a resonable comment - apologies

But really there is no need to be so .... vile!!!

PhineasFreak · Mar 8th, 2007, 05:14 AM

you started it

Lotz · Mar 8th, 2007, 05:26 AM

But anyways back to the music and the competition

DiBBLeS THe CaT · Mar 8th, 2007, 05:34 AM

Thanks for the Smiley..

Getting real exciting now..

I feel like this Guy..

OTTI · Mar 8th, 2007, 05:37 AM

^ Judging by that expression ...

I think someone else just did

90degrees · Mar 8th, 2007, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciscobiz

THE RULES
...

a) DJ's that enter must review their peers with a discussion:

1. Tracklisting and Style - 3 points

3 points in one hit for one DJ or is splitting allowed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciscobiz

2. Technical - 3 points
...

which doesn't have to be the same DJ(s) who got the Track & Style points already, right?

ciscobiz · Mar 8th, 2007, 06:28 AM

3,2, or 1 point for each section. Per DJ.

If you don't think they made a very good effort technically - nil point. If the tracks were great - 3 points. Total 3 points for that DJ out of a possible 6 point maximum.

If there are any real issues with the new points system - we can change if people are in agreement but I figured we all were in broadly in favour in the original discussion thread. I just posted up to get things moving since Bruce seems to have a lot on at the moment.

Dustwave is gratefully handling all the hosting - PM him for your number and upload details.

PhineasFreak · Mar 8th, 2007, 06:46 AM

so DJs can only give points to one contestant but listeners can split points across 3?

ciscobiz · Mar 8th, 2007, 06:53 AM

The DJ's vote for each other - 3 points per section. 6 maximum. All DJ's must award points 0-6 for all other DJ's except themselves!

Everybody else votes 1st: 3 points, 2nd: 2 points, 3rd: 1 point. 3 votes just as in all other competitions.

NB: I would prefer it if the reviews were entered in one go for all DJ's by each reviewer and not piecemeal during the voting period. Take your time - your fellow DJ's want to hear what you think, where we went wrong and what we might do to improve.

I will keep an eye on the board and update the rules if there is any need for further clarification.

PhineasFreak · Mar 8th, 2007, 06:55 AM

that doesn't seem fair...

Lotz · Mar 8th, 2007, 07:00 AM

I think the idea Phin, is so that other DJs (who supposedly know more about technical aspects) are therefore voting on such things, where-as the regular joe bloggs just votes for what they like .... init??

ciscobiz · Mar 8th, 2007, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhineasFreak

that doesn't seem fair...

The idea was to keep it simple stupid (KISS).

Let's try to be specific, please Phin..?

DiBBLeS THe CaT · Mar 8th, 2007, 07:08 AM

So..

If there were say 6 contestants..

I would vote twice for each Dj in two categories..

DJ1 1/3 3/3

DJ2 2/3 1/3

DJ3 3/3 2/3

DJ4 n/a n/a Assuming it were me..

DJ5 1/3 1/3

DJ6 1/3 1/3

or have i just got it all out of whack?

PhineasFreak · Mar 8th, 2007, 07:08 AM

but forcing the DJs to vote for less range of options than the regular joe bloggs - thats kinda like saying the DJs are less able to be trusted with their voting...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciscobiz

The idea was to keep it simple stupid (KISS).

Let's try to be specific, please Phin..?

specific about what?

your making things far more complex than is necessary "stupid"

Lotz · Mar 8th, 2007, 07:11 AM

Won't someone please sort this out!!

Why not submit your mixes, and then go with the flow ... when people start voting, it will probably all become clear!!

90degrees · Mar 8th, 2007, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciscobiz

The DJ's vote for each other - 3 points per section. 6 maximum. All DJ's must award points 0-6 for all other DJ's except themselves!

Everybody else votes 1st: 3 points, 2nd: 2 points, 3rd: 1 point. 3 votes just as in all other competitions.

NB: I would prefer it if the reviews were entered in one go for all DJ's by each reviewer and not piecemeal during the voting period. Take your time - your fellow DJ's want to hear what you think, where we went wrong and what we might do to improve.

I will keep an eye on the board and update the rules if there is any need for further clarification.

mmkay, award me with thicko of the month medal but I still don't get it.
First I thought like Phin, one hit for my hero DJ in each category (3+3) with 6 points in total at my disposal.
Now it seems that if I have e.g. 10 contestants (plus myself) I could award up to 60 points in total theoretically if i thought their mixes were all sublime in both categories...?

Edit:
I'm on same drift as dibbles right now...

Mar 8th, 2007, 04:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
ciscobiz Senior Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Die Schweiz Posts: 691	Mix Competition VIII - The No Theme Mix (Free For All) THE NO RULES FREE FOR ALL RULES MIX The rules are that there are no rules. Actually, - that’s a complete lie. Exceptions to the rules include: a) DJ's that enter must review their peers with a discussion: Track listing and Style: a) DJ's and all other listeners have 6 points to allocate. b) Complete freedom in personal judgment - award up to 6 points in total: Example: DJ 2 - 2 points, DJ 7 - 1 point, DJ 4 - 1 point, DJ 9 - 2 points (Total 6 points). Example: If one particular DJ rocked your boat - DJ 1 - 6 points. (Total 6 points). Technical: a) ONLY Entering DJ's may award up to 6 points to allocate in the same manner as above. Other: a) DJ's vote for themselves in the same manner. However, those points are merely cosmetic and are subtracted from the total for that DJ at the competition end. This will serve as to protect the anonymity of the DJ and prevent skewing of the results. Be honest about how it went for you. Describe where you could have improved. b) Reviews and point allocations for the DJ's peers are posted after the closing date for entry. Each DJ should post their reviews for all other DJ’s in one go and not piecemeal. This will make it easy for DJ’s to consider the feedback given. c) All other listeners post as and when they wish. d) All DJ's provide a track listing and review with their entry along with the points. e) Entering DJ's must distinguish in dual paragraphs what they are awarding their points for. Example: 1) It was a load of rubbish what that bloke ciscobiz played. That guy shouldn’t show his face around this part of town again. 2) But I liked his style. f) Anything up to an hour. g) Anonymous. Any identifiable information disqualifies. h) Submissions to Dustwave. PM him for your number and upload details. i) Any media - Hardware or Software (Ableton, Traktor, Mixmeister etc.). j) 128k MP3 format for all entries. k Closing date Sunday 8th April 2007 23:59 GMT. l) Voting closes Sunday 22nd April 2007 23:59 GMT. m) DJ identities are revealed in the points ranking at the end of the competition. Remember: This is an opportunity for beginners and those more experienced alike to get together and hear some honesty in what your fellow faces are playing. Speak your mind. Always. Last edited by rh1n0 : Apr 6th, 2007 at 06:22 AM. Reason: User request

Mar 8th, 2007, 04:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
PhineasFreak DI Critical Mass Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dancing with wolves Posts: 33,185	how do we submit to dustwave exactly? __________________ "It sounds like God treading on a lego brick" - Jeremy Clarkson New Psy-Dub remix! http://www.ubetoo.com/psytrance/46349

Mar 8th, 2007, 05:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lotz DI Chronic Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: where am I again??? Posts: 6,452	Don't be difficult wolfboy .... obviously you PM Dustwave!!!!! __________________ ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~ Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss the wolfboy the most! ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~

Mar 8th, 2007, 05:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
PhineasFreak DI Critical Mass Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dancing with wolves Posts: 33,185	oh - is it a secret number/upload address given by request deal again? and btw, Lotz - screw you! its a valid question considering the number of n00bs who aren't familiar with the process... __________________ "It sounds like God treading on a lego brick" - Jeremy Clarkson New Psy-Dub remix! http://www.ubetoo.com/psytrance/46349

Mar 8th, 2007, 05:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
PhineasFreak DI Critical Mass Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dancing with wolves Posts: 33,185	you started it __________________ "It sounds like God treading on a lego brick" - Jeremy Clarkson New Psy-Dub remix! http://www.ubetoo.com/psytrance/46349

Mar 8th, 2007, 05:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lotz DI Chronic Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: where am I again??? Posts: 6,452	But anyways back to the music and the competition __________________ ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~ Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss the wolfboy the most! ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~

Mar 8th, 2007, 05:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
DiBBLeS THe CaT Senior Forum Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: GeDWiCKS BaRN Posts: 886	Thanks for the Smiley.. Getting real exciting now.. I feel like this Guy.. __________________ THe Sea MoNKeY HaS My MoNeY

Mar 8th, 2007, 05:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
OTTI DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,180	^ Judging by that expression ... I think someone else just did __________________ “I don't know! I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again!” ... Bart Simpson.

Mar 8th, 2007, 06:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
ciscobiz Senior Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Die Schweiz Posts: 691	3,2, or 1 point for each section. Per DJ. If you don't think they made a very good effort technically - nil point. If the tracks were great - 3 points. Total 3 points for that DJ out of a possible 6 point maximum. If there are any real issues with the new points system - we can change if people are in agreement but I figured we all were in broadly in favour in the original discussion thread. I just posted up to get things moving since Bruce seems to have a lot on at the moment. Dustwave is gratefully handling all the hosting - PM him for your number and upload details. Last edited by ciscobiz : Mar 8th, 2007 at 06:48 AM.

Mar 8th, 2007, 06:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
PhineasFreak DI Critical Mass Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dancing with wolves Posts: 33,185	so DJs can only give points to one contestant but listeners can split points across 3? __________________ "It sounds like God treading on a lego brick" - Jeremy Clarkson New Psy-Dub remix! http://www.ubetoo.com/psytrance/46349

Mar 8th, 2007, 06:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
ciscobiz Senior Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Die Schweiz Posts: 691	The DJ's vote for each other - 3 points per section. 6 maximum. All DJ's must award points 0-6 for all other DJ's except themselves! Everybody else votes 1st: 3 points, 2nd: 2 points, 3rd: 1 point. 3 votes just as in all other competitions. NB: I would prefer it if the reviews were entered in one go for all DJ's by each reviewer and not piecemeal during the voting period. Take your time - your fellow DJ's want to hear what you think, where we went wrong and what we might do to improve. I will keep an eye on the board and update the rules if there is any need for further clarification. Last edited by ciscobiz : Mar 8th, 2007 at 07:02 AM.

Mar 8th, 2007, 06:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
PhineasFreak DI Critical Mass Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dancing with wolves Posts: 33,185	that doesn't seem fair... __________________ "It sounds like God treading on a lego brick" - Jeremy Clarkson New Psy-Dub remix! http://www.ubetoo.com/psytrance/46349

Mar 8th, 2007, 07:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
Lotz DI Chronic Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: where am I again??? Posts: 6,452	I think the idea Phin, is so that other DJs (who supposedly know more about technical aspects) are therefore voting on such things, where-as the regular joe bloggs just votes for what they like .... init?? __________________ ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~ Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss the wolfboy the most! ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~

Mar 8th, 2007, 07:08 AM	#17 (permalink)
DiBBLeS THe CaT Senior Forum Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: GeDWiCKS BaRN Posts: 886	So.. If there were say 6 contestants.. I would vote twice for each Dj in two categories.. DJ1 1/3 3/3 DJ2 2/3 1/3 DJ3 3/3 2/3 DJ4 n/a n/a Assuming it were me.. DJ5 1/3 1/3 DJ6 1/3 1/3 or have i just got it all out of whack? __________________ THe Sea MoNKeY HaS My MoNeY

Mar 8th, 2007, 07:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
Lotz DI Chronic Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: where am I again??? Posts: 6,452	Won't someone please sort this out!! Why not submit your mixes, and then go with the flow ... when people start voting, it will probably all become clear!! __________________ ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~ Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss the wolfboy the most! ~ ♥ ~ ♥ ~ Last edited by Lotz : Mar 8th, 2007 at 07:14 AM.

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