win 7?

[poihl]

hi, im using vista. but i don't like it. how about win 7?

[ij70_17as]

It is next M$ operating system. That tells me that until SP1 comes out, I will sit back, sip some wine and watch the circus. What's your plan?

[rh1n0]

Got one of the releases running on my TV box running Media Center. Now, I don't know if it's because of Windows 7, Media Center, or Media Center running on Windows 7, but the sound on video files doesn't always work as you would expect. A reboot generally fixes it, but it's a little annoying to have to do that on a TV box.

Other than that I don't have any first hand experience with the OS. I'm sticking with 64bit Vista for the time being.

[J!SH!]

im running win 7 right now as i type. its great you will find it a great relief speed wise. theres al these little features that you will love. but yea you will need to wait for sp 1 to come out

[rh1n0]

Originally Posted by J!SH!

im running win 7 right now as i type. its great you will find it a great relief speed wise. theres al these little features that you will love. but yea you will need to wait for sp 1 to come out

What do we need SP1 for?

I'm running it and it's working just fine. Only thing I'm missing is mouse drivers.

[HudsonHawk]

Originally Posted by rh1n0

What do we need SP1 for?

I'm running it and it's working just fine. Only thing I'm missing is mouse drivers.

because you will not be able to upgrade your public beta or RC to an sp1, so in a few months you will be forced to format your pc.

Besides...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx

Sorry, the Windows 7 RC is no longer available for download. If you’ve got the download and need a product key, they’ll be available until October 21, 2009.

At this point you might as well just wait a few months until SP1 comes out.

[JessicaD]

Poihl,

If you would like to learn more about Windows 7 and how it can meet your needs Microsoft does have a site with whitepapers, tutorials, walkthroughs and screen casts on all the “under the hood” features in Win 7. Check out the Springboard site for Windows 7 on TechNet here technetdotmicrosoftdotcom/en-us/windows/dd361745dotaspx (Replace the "dot" with a period ".")

Also, if you would like to read what other users have said about their positive experience with Windows 7, you may want to check out the following sites: wwwdotwinsupersitedotcom/ and wwwdotedbottdotcom/weblog/

Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team

[J!SH!]

Originally Posted by rh1n0

What do we need SP1 for?

I'm running it and it's working just fine. Only thing I'm missing is mouse drivers.

the deeper you go the more walls you will hit. I have no problems, but when i start installing programs and using them i hit many bumps and walls.

and i want to recommend 7 to EVERYONE in DI

[rh1n0]

I've since found my mouse drivers that work with 7. Silly Logitech website is a maze and sometimes the page has what you want and sometimes it does not.

Other than that, using it as a daily I have had no issues that come to mind. =]

[ij70_17as]

I am very happy with Xp.

[Deadly Groove]

There's still some issues with Windows 7 that I am finding. I have a PreSonus sound card and I had to do some things to get it to work. I had to upgrade my 1394 Legacy driver, then I had to go on the site to download and install the Firebox driver which if Windows 7 was like Leopard, it would do it automatically. The card still glitches out once in awhile where as in XP, it ran perfectly. In Leopard, the card runs flawlessly and Leopard updated everything without me having to do a single thing. Mind you, both operating systems are on the same PC so I can do a fair comparison as to the performance of both.

I'll see how things work when the true version of Windows 7 comes out. So far Leopard is way better than Windows 7 and I don't need to manually update drivers like I do for certain things in Windows 7 which should automatically do the work for me. Operating Systems are supposed to make it easier for you to get more work done in less amount of time, not to spend hours working on them to get things to work right before you can get work done. As I said, I'll see what happens when Windows 7 comes out commercially.

[HudsonHawk]

Originally Posted by Deadly Groove

Operating Systems are supposed to make it easier for you to get more work done in less amount of time, not to spend hours working on them to get things to work right before you can get work done.

I slightly disagree. It's absolutely great if it, but OS is not "suppose" to work out of the box and in reality it never will*. Combination of hardware on your machine is virtually unlimited. On the other hand if you control everything from production to software/driver development like apple does then you can develop an OS that works out of the box. But it's just not a possibility for Microsoft.

*well, who knows what will happen in the future... I certainly don't

[Deadly Groove]

Originally Posted by HudsonHawk

I slightly disagree.

I don't get what you disagree about. Are you saying that you like doing trial and error to get everything to work right in your operating system? The purpose of your computer is to use it to do what it needs to do for you. It's not used to sit there and try to come up with all kinds of ways to get something to work when it doesn't at first. I spent a couple of hours trying things with my sound card in Windows 7 before I could get it to work with Cubase, FL and Reason. I'm still trying to figure out why Winamp and Windows Media Player aren't working on it. On Leopard, the sound card worked immediately and it's not a Mac product. All applications in Leopard works with my sound card, not the case in Windows 7. Again, both OSes are on the same PC using the same hardware. Come on now Hawk, don't make me *e-smack you*!!!

[Deadly Groove]

Originally Posted by Deadly Groove

I'm still trying to figure out why Winamp and Windows Media Player aren't working on it.

Finally got them working!!! 3 hours it took!!! 3 hours wasted when I could have spent that 3 hours working on my BBS set!!! See what I mean Hawk? In Leopard, my time would have been saved because I wouldn't have spent 3 hours trying to figure out why my sound card wasn't working, going on google to find fixes for it and updating 1394 drivers, so on and so on. Now I'm not dissing Windows 7, there are many things that I do like about that OS. I especially like the dock like usability in the taskbar and there is even a circle dock you can use as well. I like the clean interface of it. It has many useful features that XP and Vista doesn't have. I just don't like issues coming up where I have to troubleshoot through them for hours, wasting my time. Maybe I am just lazy or impatient in that aspect.

[Sh0tz]

I have my Windows 7 ready right here. I haven't tested it myself yet though, but know enough people that are more than happy about it. Currently on XP, which is of course fine, but damn.. I have Vista on my laptop, and I never liked it. But anyway, I'll see in a few weeks maybe how Win7 works. Putting a new PC together soon anyway.

[Introducing Next]

They should just expand off of WinXP.

[HudsonHawk]

Originally Posted by Deadly Groove

Finally got them working!!! 3 hours it took!!! 3 hours wasted when I could have spent that 3 hours working on my BBS set!!! See what I mean Hawk? In Leopard, my time would have been saved because I wouldn't have spent 3 hours trying to figure out why my sound card wasn't working, going on google to find fixes for it and updating 1394 drivers, so on and so on. Now I'm not dissing Windows 7, there are many things that I do like about that OS. I especially like the dock like usability in the taskbar and there is even a circle dock you can use as well. I like the clean interface of it. It has many useful features that XP and Vista doesn't have. I just don't like issues coming up where I have to troubleshoot through them for hours, wasting my time. Maybe I am just lazy or impatient in that aspect.

I disagree with the word "suppose (to)". And the comparison with Leopard. Apple controls everything that goes into their box, your hardware/software combination on PC can be virtually unlimited. As soon as you install 3rd party stuff on a mac machine you will face same difficulties. For example, 2 days ago I was working on a friend's mac that had a problem, after installing skype on his machine he was no longer able to sign into ichat. My point is when you rely on 3rd party drivers as much as microsoft you will always run into difficulties. But that's the beautiful thing about PCs, customization.

[Deadly Groove]

Originally Posted by HudsonHawk

I disagree with the word "suppose (to)". And the comparison with Leopard. Apple controls everything that goes into their box, your hardware/software combination on PC can be virtually unlimited. As soon as you install 3rd party stuff on a mac machine you will face same difficulties. For example, 2 days ago I was working on a friend's mac that had a problem, after installing skype on his machine he was no longer able to sign into ichat. My point is when you rely on 3rd party drivers as much as microsoft you will always run into difficulties. But that's the beautiful thing about PCs, customization.

Did you read my post at all. I'm not using a Mac. I have Leopard on a PC. I built a custom PC. I installed 3 different operating systems on 3 hard drives. Did you also not read the part where I mentioned about the same software being used on Windows and Leopard. Let me go through this again. My sound card works flawlessly with winamp, FL Studio, Reason and Cubase on Leopard straight from the installation. I did the same thing in Windows and it took me 3 hours to get my sound card working. Winamp, FL, Reason and Cubase are 3rd party software. I also mentioned my PreSonus sound card which is also not Apple. There's some other 3rd party software that I installed on both. Everything works flawlessly so far in Leopard whereas in Windows 7, I have had issues with where I had to look around for drivers. Once again, I am not using an Apple computer, I am using a custom PC that I built. And yes, an operating system is supposed to be made for the user to get work done, not to fiddle around with to get things working. That is what it is designed for. Obviously I know that this isn't the case with current technology. You're starting an argument on a moot point which doesn't make any sense. My whole post is also based on what I have experienced in the past week with the two operating systems. Have you used both of them on the same PC? If not then you can't very well say much about it. You can only go by what problems other people you know are having and comparing Leopard on an Apple and Windows on a PC isn't a fair comparason but I am using both on the same custom PC, not a Mac. I don't even own a Mac. They are way over priced and I refuse to pay that much for a computer.

[Deadly Groove]

Originally Posted by poihl

hi, im using vista. but i don't like it. how about win 7?

Originally Posted by Sh0tz

I have Vista on my laptop, and I never liked it.

I'm curious as to why you guys don't like Vista?

You can turn off the password login and you can turn off those annoying "Allow" and "Administrator" popup windows if that's the issue. When you do that, Vista runs just like XP. Windows 7 has those same annoying features but you can turn all of that off. They have Service Pack 2 for Vista now as well. I don't know when it came out but I updated my other computer with it and I am just as happy with Vista as I am with XP.

[thedigitalist]

Originally Posted by Deadly Groove

Did you read my post at all. I'm not using a Mac. I have Leopard on a PC. I built a custom PC. I installed 3 different operating systems on 3 hard drives. Did you also not read the part where I mentioned about the same software being used on Windows and Leopard. Let me go through this again. My sound card works flawlessly with winamp, FL Studio, Reason and Cubase on Leopard straight from the installation. I did the same thing in Windows and it took me 3 hours to get my sound card working. Winamp, FL, Reason and Cubase are 3rd party software. I also mentioned my PreSonus sound card which is also not Apple. There's some other 3rd party software that I installed on both. Everything works flawlessly so far in Leopard whereas in Windows 7, I have had issues with where I had to look around for drivers. Once again, I am not using an Apple computer, I am using a custom PC that I built. And yes, an operating system is supposed to be made for the user to get work done, not to fiddle around with to get things working. That is what it is designed for. Obviously I know that this isn't the case with current technology. You're starting an argument on a moot point which doesn't make any sense. My whole post is also based on what I have experienced in the past week with the two operating systems. Have you used both of them on the same PC? If not then you can't very well say much about it. You can only go by what problems other people you know are having and comparing Leopard on an Apple and Windows on a PC isn't a fair comparason but I am using both on the same custom PC, not a Mac. I don't even own a Mac. They are way over priced and I refuse to pay that much for a computer.

Take into account that windows 7 isn't released yet. Whilst they may not add anything into the OS, some drivers may be added/updated.

I had both ubuntu 9 and windows7 on my netbook. Neither could play youtube in HD without glitching.

i installed XP - and it's as smooth as silk.

xp was/is a pretty damn good OS - despite how much people slate it.

Vista wouldn't even run on my netbook!