fake sony mdr v700s ?

[DJ Marco]

That's some good research Psychotrance

Hopefully not too many people end up with fakes

[Mark Green]

I came across the head phones on ebay and went pn buy now but i knew they were fakes as the photo they were showing on ebay didnt match the sony i have at the moment. I wanted to purchase some knew ones as a friend broke mine. I dont buy dj gear off ebay as i know most are scams and fake!

[Dj-Immy]

hi regarding the sony mdr-z700 these are real i spoke to a friend who runs a dj store and within Europe and the states its v700 not z700 as he had a customer who had purchased z700s from possibly ebay and he sent them back to sony for the customer and sony contact him to inform him they were sending the v700s as they are the same just the z700 is the Japanese version.

with regards to Sony Centers They are not owned or managed or owned by sony they are run all by a third party company.

[DJ PSYCHOTRANCE]

@ Dj-Immy, i know the set of MDR Z700's that i got were fake.....read my last post, there were tell tale signs on the packaging like faded colours and bad printing which pointed towards bad copying of the package, also the sound quality was like a set of £10 headphones instead of nearly £100 headphones. Plus as far as i know the V700's earcups are metal....these Z700's earcups are plastic.

The signs of bad printing on package are as follows:

1. the green/blue panel on the box with picture of headphones on it, the colour was faded compared to an original box the sony centre showed me.
2. the original box was about 2-3 inches broader
3. the picture on the back of box that shows the headphones with the extended cord, on fake box the cord was barely visible, on original box the cord can be clearly seen.
4. the barcode on original box is a stick on barcode, the one on fakes is not a stick on one ( it's under a clear laminate that the fakers put over the printed part of box. Plus on parts of the box the clear laminate was peeling off.
Sony centre said that under no circumstances would Sony put out such badly printed packaging.
God my new Citronic hp500 Pro's sound 100 times better than the fake Z700's i got.....luckily i told ebay seller i took them to sony shop and told him they were fakes.....he refunded my money including postage and packaging.

[AlbertoCastillo2001]

Prfff I just spent like 45 mins trying to post a whole lot of photos of V700 and Z700 and I can't cuz of not having 15 messages

[Sempre 5]

Hi everybody. I wanted to make an update on this post because it really applied to me when I bought my pair off of eBay.

I recently have been debating over a good set of headphones for DJing. Of course I was told of the famous RPDH-1200s to compliment my SL-1200s. Well I got a helluva deal from this seller from Shanghai, for $50 or sth like that (MSRP $229.99 CDN). Alright, skeptical yet, I'm sure you are as I was too.

Now I'm VERY particular and have a good eye/ear and I also made a strong statement to the seller the item would be thoroughly inspected for authenticity and he also assured me of a full refund if they are not. He also provided a tracking number with the package. So at least I have that established saftey net.

I just received them today and I'm a bit undecided. All information presented is in reference to that which was obtained from the documentation/photos from this thread.

THE GOOD (that checks out to be typical of "original" MDR-V700s)
LABEL
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...5/DSC_0281.jpg
Clearly seen and recognizeable. On headband, plug end (embossed) and ear cups with the appropriate "MDR-V700" labelling.

CORD
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...5/DSC_0305.jpg
Matte black rather than the glossy black found on the phonies.

EARCUPS
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...5/DSC_0275.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...5/DSC_0302.jpg
Chrome SONY embossed brand. No scratches (though mine has a very slight scuff ironically on the left. I don't think it's an issue though; I didn't notice it until I used a flash. And looks to be of good quality/stitching

BARCODE Not laminate, not part of the label (as a copy). Actual sticker.

THE BAD (things that do raise a question)

BAG

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...5/DSC_0295.jpg
I heard it was supposed to be a pearly white silk bag. The one I have is black and not bad at all in simulated leather quality. The reverse side feels nylonish and smooth.

And if you look at the photos, the SONY logo is in a misplacing bold font. It looks quite foreign and not typical of the sony logo.

CORD
Now I know there may be difference in country manufacturing. And what I compared was from the Canadian Sony website and the cord was reported to be 3m(10ft). Mine is about 1m. That IS coiled and the package does say Coiled 1-3m long single-sided LC-OFC lits cord with a gold plated stereo unimatch plug. This may just be the difference that you 'may' stretch it out to 3m uncoiled.

PLUG AND UNIMATCH

Mine has black bands rather than the usual green bands. Even on the packaging it shows the plug and adater with green bands.

PACKAGING

Again the difference between the advertised green banded plugs and the seen black bands. There IS a barcode sticker but I also question its authenticity (it says MDR-V700/C. Its part number looks unique but the serial number is S01-000000-T). Also it says "Made in China". Sony is Japanese, should it not say "Made in Japan?"

Other notes
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...5/DSC_0306.jpg
I didn't find much bass to them or at least very impressive bass...it could be that I'm too stressed from over analyzing :P

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...5/DSC_0297.jpg
And the notches in adjusting the headband are not very rigid and don't hold the setting very well; it slides a little too easily.

I know this thread may have been out for a while but I wanted to make an update and maybe even find an answer that will give me a little more peace of mind. Either I have an authentic pair, or they're stepping up likeness in copies being made. And in that case I hope others can be informed and I can resolve my product with Sony.

Much respect
- Tom

[DJ PSYCHOTRANCE]

Take it from me....they are fakes. as i said in previous post i got citronic hp500 pro's that sound 100 times better, and also i've got technics rpdh 1200's.
Now i expect the sony's to be of similar sound quality to the technics, but these fake sony's are total crap compared to my technics. as i said even my citronics are 100 times better sounding and they only cost me £40.

SONY MDR Z700's ARE FAKE!!!!! DO NOT BUY THEM!!!!!!!

[Sempre 5]

Are you serious? these are fakes????!

At least I can send them back to Sony for a real pair. They're almost right on the money and carry every Sony identifiable trademark. even the barcode.

[DJ PSYCHOTRANCE]

REAL Sony mdr v700's should have a pearl coloured bag, the rubber bands on headphone adapter should be green...not black!!! any owner of original mdr v700's will tell you this. Also rule of thumb when buying from ebay......if it sounds too good to be true...then it is!!!! maybe getting a saving of £10-£20 but not half price. i got my technics rpdh 1200's from ebay....payed £85 for them...so i saved £10-£15 from buying them from any stores.

[fizz]

Ya, I bought a pair for myself and my brother last year. Ours are actually a little bit different, but think they are both fake. His came with the black bag, mine didn't come with one. The adaptor at the end is also different, his screws on/off, mine just pops on or off. They work fine, however recently, only one cup works now.. not a biggie since I almost never use both head phones.. but am in the market for a new pair

[djdej]

I had some Z700's, did a house party and they were dead at the end of the night and i'd only had them about 7-8 months !So if it says Z700 don't bother!
Save your money, don't buy inferior Sony headphones get yourself some amazing Sennheiser Hd-25's Expensive but sound amazing and sooo much more comfy

Mmmmmmmm Sennheiser HD-25's


Laters

[Sempre 5]

I dunno if this sheds any light on my or other cases but I just received some final developments from Sony (Service Center local HQ).

I ended up sending the pair to the Service Center. I included a note explaining the degradation of sound quality, and everything I mentioned in the earlier posts. It got a bit lost in their mail system for a while, but I just received it today.

No, I did not get a replacement. I received a Purolator bag with the original box, with the service order stuffed in a wedge of the box. The headphones, quite frankly, look like they were never removed from the bag that I had put them in a certain way.

In anycase, in the service order was described -
All the usual information pertaining to the headphones EXCEPT the serial. Odd, I thought, as the box has the UPC sticker on it.

THE CONCLUSION
In the Description of Service field, this was quoted:

ACC: BAG COND;MARKS
POOR SOUND QUALITY
NO PROOF OF PURCHASE
functions ,performance tested ok.
functions are normal
Next time there will be a $50.00 min repair charges and $10.00 shp.


I was never told of the entire shipping process for repairs or a service order when I had arranged the headphones to be sent out. I just got a weird suspicion that the headphones were not even looked at, maybe due to the frustration that I may have made on being illinformed.

However, the service order does state it's apparently in proper order.
Overall, I can't even say whether I have the feeling of closure on this one; it's still a little sketchy with the service I received from Sony, but it does confirm the product being tested and passing.

Maybe this is an end for this product's authenticity research, maybe not. But let me know any developments.

[DJ FUZZZ]

OK,fakes of these are very very good now,you get green on the cord gold plated screw jacks probably even use real Sony cords to be honest they are actually high quality,box has sticker barcodes + made in Japan now! BUT always look under the headband near brackets this will always have the CE one side + MADE IN JAPAN the other embossed, fakes wont,pull the earpad off have a look at the speaker it will be a speaker not a plastic piece of crap,ear cups will be metal not plastic as fakes are,fakes will also have a single grip dot missing from the lower bracket adjuster underneath the 5 raised grip dots on outer,fakes will feel like they are going to either snap or break under the pressure of collapsing them for transport with cups reluctantly folding up.
Dont buy DJ headphones off Ebay it is laced with fakes SONY,SENNHEISER,TECHNICS,DENON,PIONEER,BEWARE!!!! If you want to find real Ebay DJ headphones go for less copied names that havent been rinsed yet with equal quality to the above like high end STANTON,BEHRINGER,BEYERDYNAMIC(wicked phones!!)
Anyway dont get caught out + lets be honest you dont get real TECHNICS HDJ 1000's start at 99p + go for £18.77 final sale to have them turn up as a bargain,wakey wakey party people.Mind how you go. DJ FUZZZ

[Sempre 5]

Well, I had bugged the company long and hard enough that they actually sent me a REAL pair.

And YEAH there's a BIG difference. Just the feel, alone, smacks quality when you have an authentic pair in your hands. And on your ears...the sound is amazing.

Goes to show, squeaky wheel gets the grease. I had complained about their repair services and how they had missed aformentioned flaws in my report, and the very fact I had been ripped off on a knock-off product of theirs. I felt completely undermined by the company until I really dug to get a hold of managers.

Great product, worth it ALL in the end. The company has a little improvement to make in the customer service department :P

[CSI IRL]

That really sucks people are getting screwed with these fake headphones --- I would seriously suggest reporting the seller to EBAY, not sure if it would do anything but it can't hurt.

[Sempre 5]

Originally Posted by CSI IRL

That really sucks people are getting screwed with these fake headphones --- I would seriously suggest reporting the seller to EBAY, not sure if it would do anything but it can't hurt.

Oh my god dude, that would be SUCH a waste of time. Through my experience, eBay is about as passive as a corpse. I've been through it all, talking with them and explaining the definition of business ethic to protect the consumer.

Basically, but not by quote, they said -- we really don't give a shit. We provide a harbour for sellers and buyers. We try to keep it clean in severe cases, but for the most part, we just HOPE people have good morals and relative ethics. If they don't, well we won't go out of our way to save any customers, UNLESS that involves our asses in a lawsuit.

USE EBAY WITH THE UTMOST CAUTION. You have nobody but your skeptism on your side. Always research a product before buying.

[djdej]

My advice on ebay - DON'T BUY Headphones from Ebay use real companies like pssl or thomann. If your going to get a saving on Ebay then its not going to be a lot just £10-£20 at the most.
I found my copies to be really good and compared them to my mates V700's (that were real) and there was literally no difference in sound quality.

Im glad i went for Sennheiser Hd-25's as they are amazing and you can replace anything that is broken on them as apposed to the whole unit!

Laters

[Hugo909]

Yeah, I got the latest fake Sony headphones. Through Ebay of course.
I was in for a little test, but my god how good can "they" make a fake headphone look! VEry hard to tell the difference, for sure they have used a genuine Sony cable. Pirates read DJ blogs as well. The sound is not bad at all by the way.

Best is to read DJ FUZZZ's post and look for the following flaws:

- Look under the headband near brackets this will always have the CE one side + MADE IN JAPAN the other embossed, fakes wont.
- Pull the earpad off have a look at the speaker it will be a speaker not a plastic piece of crap,ear cups will be metal not plastic as fakes are
- A single grip dot missing from the lower bracket adjuster underneath the 5 raised grip dots on outer,
- Fakes will feel like they are going to either snap or break under the pressure of collapsing them for transport with cups reluctantly folding up.

I will make a picture of the actual "speaker" inside my fake Sony, this should make things even more clear.

[Hugo909]

WOW!

Take a close look at the official Sony Website: NO text under the brackets, NO single dot onder the adjustment Bracket!!!



Put the well known h t t p / / in front of this: sp.sony-europe.com/media/6/2593

Well guys, please take a close look at the official Sony Website!

Edit: Can someone confirm that the original earcups are metal not plastic?

[richs64]

love these cans