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View Poll Results: Breeze&Styles - Masters of Hardcore - How do you rate this track?
simply amazing! 42 67.74%
very good 11 17.74%
decent 3 4.84%
pretty bad 2 3.23%
no thanks, not my style! 4 6.45%
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 09:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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THIS IS 100% Trance!!!!!! it sucks....
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 10:24 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Gaaah! Whats this songs name??? "Take me up up up and away... where fantasy turns to reality"

Been looking for this for a long time, but whats it called???

Please help me someone!

This is a great mix, cant sit still
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Old May 2nd, 2003, 06:30 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Gaaah! Whats this songs name??? "Take me up up up and away... where fantasy turns to reality"

Been looking for this for a long time, but whats it called???
tinytot - discoland ??

there's a music ID forum by the way
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Old May 2nd, 2003, 06:59 PM   #24 (permalink)
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People who would call this trance dont know what trance is. Trance doesnt go over even 160 let alone this fast. Granted the music is trancier, but that is the way the music has evolved. Its still great. All music evolves. A few years ago, you wouldnt have even heard of any gabber with a triplet beat, but now its the norm.
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Old May 4th, 2003, 06:26 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I do love Breeze and Styles, and Force and Styles however their tracks do have a certain structure and I usually rely on a DJ to use their tracks as a tool in a mix, rather than a focus.

I know this is a portfolio/album of sorts of B&S's stuff, but its all too similar for my tastes, and it tends to grind about 40 minutes in.

If you listen to Force and Styles stuff from 94-97 you can hear the progression in their production styles.

It wouldn't have hurt to have had some remixes from other hardcore producers to spice up the mix a bit.

Either way, I still love Force and Styles and Breeze and Styles!

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Old May 4th, 2003, 06:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
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force and styles are great.tunes like cuttin deep,paradise and dreams.lullaby had to be the best they made
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Old May 4th, 2003, 08:14 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Nice set, but i agree it is mostly a showcase of their music...good, but since it's by the same producers it has the same sound and loses it's excitement a bit...would of been nice to chuck in an odd track here and there.

Also loved alot off the stuff from force & styles alter ego's Sub-Ace & Aura on the UK Dance and UK Dance Extreme labels.
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Old May 4th, 2003, 08:32 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, and don't forget Unique!

Styles was such a mad singer!

"Now I'm feeling fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine!"

=D

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Old May 5th, 2003, 05:07 AM   #29 (permalink)
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happycore is just evolving so it may sound a little trancey, since producing it is better these days, and its great how happycore is evolving, unlike trance that sounds the same for years and years.

happycore just evolving??? Where have you been the last 10 years?? IN the early 90's there already were some happy hardcore cds!! And this mix by B&S is just trance. The only thing different is the beat, which is a bit faster. I would not call this hardcore, and btw the vocals are very very irritating.
Some real low qualtiy hardcore shit, I guess from the US.
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happycore just evolving??? Where have you been the last 10 years?? IN the early 90's there already were some happy hardcore cds!! And this mix by B&S is just trance. The only thing different is the beat, which is a bit faster. I would not call this hardcore, and btw the vocals are very very irritating.
Some real low qualtiy hardcore shit, I guess from the US.
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Old May 5th, 2003, 06:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Most certainly im not. I just really hate happy hardcore, and the fact that most americans, including you, really do not know the differences between the sorts of dancemusic.
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Old May 5th, 2003, 06:21 AM   #32 (permalink)
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And B&S are defenitely not masters of hardcore.
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Old May 5th, 2003, 06:42 AM   #33 (permalink)
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That's debatable though, they have been in the business around 10 years or so, seeing as they were a part of KniteForce, one of the original hardcore labels.

They've produced and remixed shedloads of other artists, been featured on compilations.

Have a look and judge for yourself:

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Force_-_Styles

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Old May 5th, 2003, 06:44 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Sorry, that was Force and Styles, Styles obviously being a part of. Breeze has been producing hardcore also since 1997 ish.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Breeze

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Old May 5th, 2003, 06:50 AM   #35 (permalink)
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THey have been in the business since 1995....
But hardcore originated in 1990 or so in the netherlands, that's where they played the first real hardcore, and, correct me if I'm wrong, most americans do not know this. THis is not bad ofcourse, but they seem to think that the happy hardcore mostly played on this channel is the "real hardcore". I get very sad when I see this, while the real hardcore is fast, hard, and mostly monotone. And I cannot remember I have ever heared this sort of hardcore on the hardcore channel here. I would love to see that all americans who think the hardcore channel plays real hardcore could visit only one once a THunderdome party in the Netherlands, and this will make their opinion change.
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Old May 5th, 2003, 07:17 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I wouldn't agree. Hardcore is all the stuff you hear thats fast, aggressive and generally 4/4. Whether it be the "original" or the "real" hardcore, its all just hardcore.

Easy as that.

If someone really cared about hardcore, they'd continue to explore subgenres.

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Old May 5th, 2003, 10:21 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I agree, keep evolving the music. But when I read; hardcore channel I expect hardcore, and that is not what I hear. It is indeed a subgenre, namely happy hardcore. As I said, I don't like happy hardcore, some people do, fine by me, but lets not play it on a hardcore channel, but create an new happy hardcore channel. IN that way everybody knows whats on and gets what he/she wants.
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Keep listening tho! They play allsorts on this channel

But... it is slightly biased to happy stuff.

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happycore just evolving??? Where have you been the last 10 years?? IN the early 90's there already were some happy hardcore cds!! And this mix by B&S is just trance. The only thing different is the beat, which is a bit faster. I would not call this hardcore, and btw the vocals are very very irritating.
Some real low qualtiy hardcore shit, I guess from the US.
Really now, you are only being a stereotypical hardcore head now. Its really quite boring to have someone like you post on almost every song.mix on these forums how much you hate it, why dont you change your station or are you just trying to hide your love for hapycore. Is this your way of being cool.

Mind you, without variety, scenes will die, so deal with it or leave.
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THey have been in the business since 1995....
But hardcore originated in 1990 or so in the netherlands, that's where they played the first real hardcore, and, correct me if I'm wrong, most americans do not know this. THis is not bad ofcourse, but they seem to think that the happy hardcore mostly played on this channel is the "real hardcore". I get very sad when I see this, while the real hardcore is fast, hard, and mostly monotone. And I cannot remember I have ever heared this sort of hardcore on the hardcore channel here. I would love to see that all americans who think the hardcore channel plays real hardcore could visit only one once a THunderdome party in the Netherlands, and this will make their opinion change.
Hardcore had help from America. Richie Hawtin and John Aquaviva wrote aggressive music that was only considered techno (one "hardcore" anthem names "sledgehammer" later remixed into "Sledge Beats". Djs in the Netherlands had clubs with tables that were pitched way up so that when they played these techno records they were reaching speeds of almost 200 BPM. Soccer fans would go to these clubs and chant their soccer cahnts to the beats and that is what freaked out richie hawtin and John A. when they saw a huge group of people chaning "JODEN JODEN JODEN" to insanely fast beats. The music in that club was being referred to as GABBA (not hardcore). The term hardcore didnt start coming around till people start using that term to describe the semi fast (around 150 bpm) sounds of breakbeat electronic music being played in clubs in or around the UK. That sound eventually evolved and hardcore eventually what many people call Happy Hardcore. The harder and darker form of music was always called GABBA, or Gabber here in the states, but since it didnt start with that name, the UK people kept with the term Hardcore.

Not every American is oblivious, as I am sure not everyone from the Netherlands is as closeminded and judgemental as you.
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