Kerry, what kind of joke was that?

switters · Nov 1st, 2006, 08:43 AM

The 2004 Democratic presidential candidate said if the students make the most of their educations, "you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

-John Kerry

If he is joking I don't get it. Maybe it was taken out of context, maybe he is that arrogant. Yes, I realize he was a navy officer, but it's possible that he despised his time in service

Do you think that only the uneducated and overpatriotic serve in the military, not just in the USA but anywhere? How about the poeople in countries where they are required to serve for 2 years?

I don't think so but I am biased.

Semper Fi,

StarkRavinMad · Nov 1st, 2006, 09:10 AM

I heard him earlier this morning. He claimed the he botched a joke. It was supposed to end "And if you don't, you get US stuck in Iraq". I'm inclined to believe his explanation.

Ambiguity · Nov 1st, 2006, 09:27 AM

I found it amusing.

switters · Nov 1st, 2006, 09:29 AM

ahhh, I hadn't found how the "joke" was supposed to go yet, thanks.

StarkRavinMad · Nov 1st, 2006, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ij70

Kerry is a very sad example of the American Democrat.

Well.

Enough about politics!

So you don't feel all alone in your display of stupidity, I'll say something equally worthless and pointless...

Mark Foley is a very sad example of the American Republican.

Doesn't everyone feel better now?

Yellowfin · Nov 1st, 2006, 06:25 PM

Expecting politicians to be good examples is like expecting to find a $20 bill in every parking lot you pull into. You see a few occasionally if you're lucky.

its-exit · Nov 1st, 2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellowfin

Expecting politicians to be good examples is like expecting to find a $20 bill in every parking lot you pull into. You see a few occasionally if you're lucky.

lmao

StarkRavinMad · Nov 1st, 2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ij70

Are we even now? What is the score?

I don't think the score matters. With "representatives" like we currently have, I think we both lose.

Seem like a fair note to terminate this conversation on?

Ambiguity · Nov 3rd, 2006, 12:45 AM

PART 1: Olbermann's Special Comment (11/1/06)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1LFEueH2Jk

PART 2: Olbermann's Special Comment (11/1/06)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl4TpA08RUo

ChEeZeBaLL · Nov 3rd, 2006, 04:11 AM

Mr. Pink · Nov 3rd, 2006, 08:50 AM

Holy shit it's true! ^^

its-exit · Nov 3rd, 2006, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambiguity

PART 1: Olbermann's Special Comment (11/1/06)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1LFEueH2Jk

PART 2: Olbermann's Special Comment (11/1/06)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl4TpA08RUo

you should've said it was some dumbass on a rant...

would've saved a few minutes of my life from being wasted....

gh0zt · Nov 3rd, 2006, 07:10 PM

soldiers are dumb ****s that is true.

the last firstborn · Nov 4th, 2006, 12:38 AM

thats a very harsh statement!

Anarise · Nov 4th, 2006, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gh0zt

soldiers are dumb ****s that is true.

What makes you say that?

Holy Cow · Nov 6th, 2006, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puss(y)cat

I'm not saying that soldiers aren't good and brave people, just that on average they may not be the smartest group in society. Nothing wrong with that is there?

I personally know some soldiers and they aren't dumb at all. They are very intelligent people.

Yellowfin · Nov 6th, 2006, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puss(y)cat

I was generalizing. I'm sure there are some soldiers that are geniuses.

The point is that Kerry's comment about doing poorly in school having the possible result of being "stuck" in a military position isn't unreasonable.

Unreasonable in thinking within his own mind, perhaps, but out of courtesy should have kept to himself.

chisbu · Nov 7th, 2006, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkRavinMad

I heard him earlier this morning. He claimed the he botched a joke. It was supposed to end "And if you don't, you get US stuck in Iraq". I'm inclined to believe his explanation.

And on "The Daily Show", they were joking about it, and added "Just ask Bush.".

DJ_Serg · Nov 7th, 2006, 04:59 PM

all my friends that went to the army went there to get their shit together. 2 of them were drug addicts who just recently signed their 2nd contract. Both were in Iraq.
I think to some extent Karry's right. If you're not doing anything with your life, might as well join the forces instead of being useless. Doesn't mean that these people are dumb. Maybe uncertain about what's going on in their life. Maybe just trying to get money for school. There are too many reasons.

marensman · Nov 7th, 2006, 08:38 PM

I think most of us know some who fit that stereotype, but thats the problem - it is a stereotype. lots of folk go for other reasons too. Kerry was not wrong, but his comments were careless and leave the wrong impression. Bush however should be doing some appologising too IMO.

Nov 1st, 2006, 08:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
switters DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Door, Colorado Posts: 1,252	Kerry, what kind of joke was that? The 2004 Democratic presidential candidate said if the students make the most of their educations, "you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." -John Kerry If he is joking I don't get it. Maybe it was taken out of context, maybe he is that arrogant. Yes, I realize he was a navy officer, but it's possible that he despised his time in service Do you think that only the uneducated and overpatriotic serve in the military, not just in the USA but anywhere? How about the poeople in countries where they are required to serve for 2 years? I don't think so but I am biased. Semper Fi, __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tall tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. -Hobbit drinking song

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switters DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Door, Colorado Posts: 1,252	ahhh, I hadn't found how the "joke" was supposed to go yet, thanks. __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tall tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. -Hobbit drinking song

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StarkRavinMad DI Chronic Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: adrift Posts: 6,141	I heard him earlier this morning. He claimed the he botched a joke. It was supposed to end "And if you don't, you get US stuck in Iraq". I'm inclined to believe his explanation.

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Ambiguity DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 4,159	I found it amusing.

Nov 3rd, 2006, 12:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ambiguity DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 4,159	PART 1: Olbermann's Special Comment (11/1/06) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1LFEueH2Jk PART 2: Olbermann's Special Comment (11/1/06) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl4TpA08RUo

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Mr. Pink DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MN Posts: 1,760	Holy shit it's true! ^^

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the last firstborn Junior Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: wish i wasnt here Posts: 77	thats a very harsh statement! __________________ ! Last edited by the last firstborn : Nov 4th, 2006 at 12:44 AM.

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DJ_Serg DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,641	all my friends that went to the army went there to get their shit together. 2 of them were drug addicts who just recently signed their 2nd contract. Both were in Iraq. I think to some extent Karry's right. If you're not doing anything with your life, might as well join the forces instead of being useless. Doesn't mean that these people are dumb. Maybe uncertain about what's going on in their life. Maybe just trying to get money for school. There are too many reasons. __________________ The Sellex Project: http://www.sellexproject.com - You touch me, I feel you - Your presence surrounds me - I float away... - You are my guide, You are my light, You take me to a place where i can shine

Nov 7th, 2006, 08:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
marensman DI/SKY Premium Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 12,368	I think most of us know some who fit that stereotype, but thats the problem - it is a stereotype. lots of folk go for other reasons too. Kerry was not wrong, but his comments were careless and leave the wrong impression. Bush however should be doing some appologising too IMO. __________________ Our mind always tries to persuade us that we are nothing but acorns and that our greatest joy will be to become bigger, fatter acorns; that is of interest only to pigs. Our faith tells us better: we can become oak trees. Schumaker

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