is there a concensus reached...wax or mp3?

4eVr_M3D · Feb 18th, 2009, 10:23 PM

I need input from all the DJ's on this one...So this is my quandary:

I'm having all my vinyl shipped down from up north and am going to start spinning again. Just for my parties, etc. I'm not going to stage at Ultra this year or anything.

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I've made some friends here that hold residency at different clubs. They are all trying to push me to mp3. I'm not one to get run over by technology, but I don't know if I like this. I'm a table-ist, there's a certain amount of show and excitement working with the platters and thumbing through 12's in a flight case.

I'd like to know which my fellow mixologists use. What you use if it is digital and feelings for or against. I'll always keep a pair or three Technics around, but should I integrate digital? And do I need to pay attention to a certain mixer in doing so.

Thanks for letting me rant. I look forward to everyone's thoughts on my stubbornness, or am i just old-skool?

-kee

DJ Stev · Feb 18th, 2009, 10:32 PM

http://forums.di.fm/dj-booth/respect-154127/
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http://forums.di.fm/dj-booth/vinyls-...ispute-149712/
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rickdawson · Feb 28th, 2009, 08:12 PM

get some software with a hardware interface, and some timecoded vinyls.

Deadly Groove · Mar 1st, 2009, 02:37 AM

Serato with Ableton Live, is a great way to integrate records with digital. I use all mediums to mix with these days. I used to be a hardcore vinyl DJ but things change.

DJ Light · Mar 10th, 2009, 10:49 AM

I think ableton live is awesome!

ominae · Mar 10th, 2009, 01:00 PM

Use both.

Acoustiks · Mar 10th, 2009, 03:31 PM

In the end, isn't about playing music? Who the hell cares about how someone goes about doing it.

ominae · Mar 10th, 2009, 07:24 PM

again use both.

ominae · Mar 10th, 2009, 07:25 PM

let me just make sure you guys understand. USE BOTH. That is use vinyl and digital music.

DJ Stev · Mar 10th, 2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominae

let me just make sure you guys understand. USE BOTH. That is use vinyl and digital music.

already do

zombieguy · Mar 10th, 2009, 09:00 PM

Use both... But use WAV over MP3.

djlithium · Mar 11th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Use vinyl over wave, use wave over mp3. If you are going to go that direction.

Voronin · Mar 11th, 2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlithium

Use vinyl over wave, use wave over mp3. If you are going to go that direction.

FLAC > wav ? (providing the support is there)

djlithium · Mar 11th, 2009, 10:49 AM

never play anything compressed using a lossy codec. I don't know why people think its okay to do this. You CAN really tell the difference in a club and it is just sounds worse if hear a mix sourced from mp3 files and then re-compressed in mp3 or AAC.

That's why I stick to vinyl.

**thedigitalist** · Mar 12th, 2009, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlithium

never play anything compressed using a lossy codec. I don't know why people think its okay to do this. You CAN really tell the difference in a club and it is just sounds worse if hear a mix sourced from mp3 files and then re-compressed in mp3 or AAC.

That's why I stick to vinyl.

FLAC: Free Lossless Audio Codec

Don't just open your mouth. Try listening/learning.

Deadly Groove · Mar 12th, 2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlithium

You CAN really tell the difference in a club

No you can't!!! The acoustics in a club is so vast that by the time the sound leaves the speakers, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference whether someone was spinning records, CDs or even cassette tapes for that matter. Secondly, the volume is so loud that certain frequencies are drowned out.

ominae · Mar 12th, 2009, 03:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGyWPxz6x3Q

Stormbringer · Mar 13th, 2009, 01:04 AM

Vinyls all the way for me. Though, I will buy CDs, too. I won't download music, though. Doesn't make any, sense to me, at all. If I buy something. I wanna touch it. If I can touch it and take care of it, I have more appreciation for it. Thus, it has value to me. Thus, music has more value to me. I will never support down load sites because of this. I personally think that people (as a whole), who download music, don't appreciate music as much as those who buy vinyls or CDs. Just a small sample of the many threads started by people who are noticing that music is more disposable, these days.

http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic....165135&start=0

**thedigitalist** · Mar 13th, 2009, 07:09 AM

wax is good for putting on your hair

*Tinkerbelle* · Mar 13th, 2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedigitalist

wax is good for putting on your hair

Why?

Are you sporting dreads now or planning to "bald" that dome of yours?

Feb 18th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
4eVr_M3D Junior Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SE USA Posts: 43	is there a concensus reached...wax or mp3? I need input from all the DJ's on this one...So this is my quandary: I'm having all my vinyl shipped down from up north and am going to start spinning again. Just for my parties, etc. I'm not going to stage at Ultra this year or anything. . I've made some friends here that hold residency at different clubs. They are all trying to push me to mp3. I'm not one to get run over by technology, but I don't know if I like this. I'm a table-ist, there's a certain amount of show and excitement working with the platters and thumbing through 12's in a flight case. I'd like to know which my fellow mixologists use. What you use if it is digital and feelings for or against. I'll always keep a pair or three Technics around, but should I integrate digital? And do I need to pay attention to a certain mixer in doing so. Thanks for letting me rant. I look forward to everyone's thoughts on my stubbornness, or am i just old-skool? -kee

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Mar 1st, 2009, 02:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Deadly Groove Chillin with Buddah Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 22,611	Serato with Ableton Live, is a great way to integrate records with digital. I use all mediums to mix with these days. I used to be a hardcore vinyl DJ but things change. __________________ "The tremendous force of the virtua explosion blew the wheels clean off of the cop cars". Classic Game Room

Mar 10th, 2009, 03:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Acoustiks DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,186	In the end, isn't about playing music? Who the hell cares about how someone goes about doing it. __________________ Drum n Bass, in yo face. Any time, any where, and place.

Mar 10th, 2009, 10:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
DJ Light Junior Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: United States Posts: 19	I think ableton live is awesome!

Mar 10th, 2009, 01:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
ominae DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,841	Use both.

Mar 10th, 2009, 07:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
ominae DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,841	again use both.

Mar 10th, 2009, 07:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
ominae DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,841	let me just make sure you guys understand. USE BOTH. That is use vinyl and digital music.

Mar 10th, 2009, 09:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
zombieguy Regular Forum Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Posts: 221	Use both... But use WAV over MP3.

Mar 11th, 2009, 10:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
djlithium Senior Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 759	Use vinyl over wave, use wave over mp3. If you are going to go that direction. __________________ DJ Lithium Black Tiger Recordings \| Nice Kitty Music Entertainment Ltd. www.djlithium.com \| www.blacktigerrercordings.com Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mar 11th, 2009, 10:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
djlithium Senior Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 759	never play anything compressed using a lossy codec. I don't know why people think its okay to do this. You CAN really tell the difference in a club and it is just sounds worse if hear a mix sourced from mp3 files and then re-compressed in mp3 or AAC. That's why I stick to vinyl. __________________ DJ Lithium Black Tiger Recordings \| Nice Kitty Music Entertainment Ltd. www.djlithium.com \| www.blacktigerrercordings.com Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mar 12th, 2009, 03:23 PM	#17 (permalink)
ominae DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,841	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGyWPxz6x3Q

Mar 13th, 2009, 01:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
Stormbringer Senior Forum Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Frankfurt/Houston Posts: 519	Vinyls all the way for me. Though, I will buy CDs, too. I won't download music, though. Doesn't make any, sense to me, at all. If I buy something. I wanna touch it. If I can touch it and take care of it, I have more appreciation for it. Thus, it has value to me. Thus, music has more value to me. I will never support down load sites because of this. I personally think that people (as a whole), who download music, don't appreciate music as much as those who buy vinyls or CDs. Just a small sample of the many threads started by people who are noticing that music is more disposable, these days. http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic....165135&start=0 __________________ My Vinyl Trance mixes http://soundcloud.com/pulsedriver1/welcome-to-the-90s http://soundcloud.com/pulsedriver1/dark-room-dark-hard-trance-mix http://soundcloud.com/pulsedriver1/the-voyage http://soundcloud.com/pulsedriver1/screaming-spirit-hard-trance Last edited by Stormbringer : Mar 13th, 2009 at 01:35 AM.

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