How to describe Full-on psytrance.

Psynomenon · Apr 15th, 2006, 01:05 AM

How can you explain full-on psytrance. I know what it sounds like but just can't explain it.

Bubble Wrap · Apr 15th, 2006, 01:09 AM

its psytrance when you want to get up and dance even though both of your legs are broken. Its so incredibly fast and psychotic, usually 145 to 150BPM, psytars goin, plenty of crunchy squishy noises, and a bass line that will kick your ass

Drigh · Apr 15th, 2006, 03:33 AM

I think its like trance without the cheesy melody. All the effects and deepness without the emotion

Glassball · Apr 15th, 2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Drigh

I think its like trance without the cheesy melody. All the effects and deepness without the emotion

Yes. Full on psytrance never has a cheesy trance melody. If it DOES have a trance melody, its 99.9% of the time serious. Like SERIOUS. The song sounds like it's an explosion of hard sounds at a rapid pace. It's exactly what it's called: "Full On". It's a ride with 100 jet thrusters. Hyper to the max and even scary at times

xruntime · Jan 25th, 2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble Wrap

its psytrance when you want to get up and dance even though both of your legs are broken. Its so incredibly fast and psychotic, usually 145 to 150BPM, psytars goin, plenty of crunchy squishy noises, and a bass line that will kick your ass

Sounds like you're describing Goa there..

Whats the difference between full on psytrance and Goa?

Trance88 · Jan 26th, 2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Psynomenon

How can you explain full-on psytrance. I know what it sounds like but just can't explain it.

Psytrance is Psytrance. There's really no other name for it.

Helix · Jan 26th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Goa doesn't have the hard kick drums and the hard driving bass lines. It's similar, but the sounds are different. It's a little more organic and not as hard. I always think the kicks are too weak.

Deadly Groove · Jan 26th, 2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xruntime

Sounds like you're describing Goa there..

Whats the difference between full on psytrance and Goa?

Goa is more melodic where as Psy is more rhythmic. Psy has zappy high frequency kicks and Goa has higher mid range hollow kicks. Both of them have trippy warping sounds but Goa's follow the melody of the bass where as Psy's are random with the hard driven rhythm. I hope that makes sense to you.

Docdr · Jan 28th, 2008, 05:33 AM

A switch in your brain being turned on, and your whole brain chanells with energy.

Helix · Jan 29th, 2008, 02:41 AM

I think the key for me is goa's hollow kicks as DG put it. That's how I've been trying to explain it for years and the best I came up with is "weak". lol I think psy is just fuller [more full?] and richer in general. It's unfortunate for me because I really like the direction a lot of goa tracks take, but I just can't listen to it because of this hollowness and lacking of punch. Infected Mushroom bridged the gap for me. They took the best of both worlds and put it together.

purenergy · Jan 29th, 2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dance2MyTrance

Yes. Full on psytrance never has a cheesy trance melody. If it DOES have a trance melody, its 99.9% of the time serious. Like SERIOUS. The song sounds like it's an explosion of hard sounds at a rapid pace. It's exactly what it's called: "Full On". It's a ride with 100 jet thrusters. Hyper to the max and even scary at times

It`s true!!!

Thirst · Jan 29th, 2008, 12:02 PM

The most intense rush I've experienced from Goa is listening to Hallucinogen - LSD.

Bubble Wrap · Jan 29th, 2008, 06:04 PM

Goa and psy are really complementary genres becuase each one has was the other does not

JimProdz · Jan 29th, 2008, 06:21 PM

It's full of scrunches, blaps and mercurial jet effects.

My brief improvised list of full-on goa/psy associated words...

= electronic, computery, smooth, bassline, original, progressive, effects

gh0zt · Jan 30th, 2008, 06:18 PM

goa to me is layer upon layer of acid lines and synths that stretch your consciousness across the vastness of space, all the while returning your soul to the comforting bosom of mother earth

and the basslines are much more basic and ritualistic than psy which seems to use more builds/gimmicks. i just want a nice boom boom boom boo-boo-boom!

Deadly Groove · Jan 31st, 2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gh0zt

goa to me is layer upon layer of acid lines and synths that stretch your consciousness across the vastness of space, all the while returning your soul to the comforting bosom of mother earth

and the basslines are much more basic and ritualistic than psy which seems to use more builds/gimmicks. i just want a nice boom boom boom boo-boo-boom!

That is also a good way to put it.

xruntime · Feb 5th, 2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Helix

I think the key for me is goa's hollow kicks as DG put it. That's how I've been trying to explain it for years and the best I came up with is "weak". lol I think psy is just fuller [more full?] and richer in general. It's unfortunate for me because I really like the direction a lot of goa tracks take, but I just can't listen to it because of this hollowness and lacking of punch. Infected Mushroom bridged the gap for me. They took the best of both worlds and put it together.

I've never liked Infected Mushroom - on the other hand, I like the weak kicks found in tracks from groups like Man with no name and Astral Projection...now I can listen to it any time without getting a headache, its not just club music.
And I prefer melody over random synths...although here and there I find some nice psy tracks, I truly love the sound of 90s goa. This hollowness + spaceyness is what is good about the genre for me; it enhances the entrancing.

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Originally Posted by gh0zt

goa to me is layer upon layer of acid lines and synths that stretch your consciousness across the vastness of space, all the while returning your soul to the comforting bosom of mother earth

and the basslines are much more basic and ritualistic than psy which seems to use more builds/gimmicks. i just want a nice boom boom boom boo-boo-boom!

Exactly! Goa all the way man!

But psy still is nice

K-BAN · Feb 6th, 2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly Groove

Goa is more melodic where as Psy is more rhythmic. Psy has zappy high frequency kicks and Goa has higher mid range hollow kicks. Both of them have trippy warping sounds but Goa's follow the melody of the bass where as Psy's are random with the hard driven rhythm. I hope that makes sense to you.

this is the best description I've ever seen. and I've tried to describe it my best all those times... ;p atta boy D.Groove!

JimProdz · Feb 6th, 2008, 06:28 PM

it sounds like bubbling molten chrome, now pouring, now bubbling...

some of it sounds like the minds of those guys in Flash Gordon where they're all hunched over computers and connected...

it's a genre I have listened to a fair bit on here - at first it was all too much for me to take in at once, seemed too hectic and stuff, but since then I can appreciate every sonic nanoparticle(!) of a decent psy track.

sometimes uses guitar, generally short, solid riffs

Dee Jake · Feb 6th, 2008, 07:24 PM

Psy trance is a commercial version of goa trance, in the commercialisation of goa it met with hard trance and hard dance styles. Goa is much more layered synthy sounds, where as psy is much more predictable euphoria, kinda less psychedelic if you know what I mean! Goa has kinda a deeper, meaningful sense and psy is much more tribal......

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Bubble Wrap DI Chronic Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hypnagogia Posts: 8,682	its psytrance when you want to get up and dance even though both of your legs are broken. Its so incredibly fast and psychotic, usually 145 to 150BPM, psytars goin, plenty of crunchy squishy noises, and a bass line that will kick your ass __________________ The human unconscious is the true final frontier

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Drigh DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 2,229	I think its like trance without the cheesy melody. All the effects and deepness without the emotion __________________ www.myspace.com/jont

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Helix Chronic Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 7,790	Goa doesn't have the hard kick drums and the hard driving bass lines. It's similar, but the sounds are different. It's a little more organic and not as hard. I always think the kicks are too weak. __________________ New Mix! Chilled PsyBreaks - Abyssus Abyssum Invocat http://forums.di.fm/shameless-self-promotion/chilled-psy-breaks-abyssus-abyssum-invocat-2-5-hour-mix-176226/ http://thehelix.no-ip.com

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Helix Chronic Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 7,790	I think the key for me is goa's hollow kicks as DG put it. That's how I've been trying to explain it for years and the best I came up with is "weak". lol I think psy is just fuller [more full?] and richer in general. It's unfortunate for me because I really like the direction a lot of goa tracks take, but I just can't listen to it because of this hollowness and lacking of punch. Infected Mushroom bridged the gap for me. They took the best of both worlds and put it together. __________________ New Mix! Chilled PsyBreaks - Abyssus Abyssum Invocat http://forums.di.fm/shameless-self-promotion/chilled-psy-breaks-abyssus-abyssum-invocat-2-5-hour-mix-176226/ http://thehelix.no-ip.com

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Thirst DI Extreme Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: ¬_¬ Posts: 4,675	The most intense rush I've experienced from Goa is listening to Hallucinogen - LSD. __________________ dont forget to bring a towel!

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Bubble Wrap DI Chronic Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hypnagogia Posts: 8,682	Goa and psy are really complementary genres becuase each one has was the other does not __________________ The human unconscious is the true final frontier

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JimProdz DI Extreme Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,456	It's full of scrunches, blaps and mercurial jet effects. My brief improvised list of full-on goa/psy associated words... = electronic, computery, smooth, bassline, original, progressive, effects

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gh0zt Shoom Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ayahuasca Village Posts: 17,815	goa to me is layer upon layer of acid lines and synths that stretch your consciousness across the vastness of space, all the while returning your soul to the comforting bosom of mother earth and the basslines are much more basic and ritualistic than psy which seems to use more builds/gimmicks. i just want a nice boom boom boom boo-boo-boom! __________________ For 100,000 years before history people lived in harmony and love and community. United in the worship of a psychedelic goddess that ruled the planet before the dominators.

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JimProdz DI Extreme Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,456	it sounds like bubbling molten chrome, now pouring, now bubbling... some of it sounds like the minds of those guys in Flash Gordon where they're all hunched over computers and connected... it's a genre I have listened to a fair bit on here - at first it was all too much for me to take in at once, seemed too hectic and stuff, but since then I can appreciate every sonic nanoparticle(!) of a decent psy track. sometimes uses guitar, generally short, solid riffs

Feb 6th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
Dee Jake DI Extreme Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wales UK Posts: 2,717	Psy trance is a commercial version of goa trance, in the commercialisation of goa it met with hard trance and hard dance styles. Goa is much more layered synthy sounds, where as psy is much more predictable euphoria, kinda less psychedelic if you know what I mean! Goa has kinda a deeper, meaningful sense and psy is much more tribal......

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