Utah Rave shutdown by Authorities

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Originally Posted by Nicci

http://freetalklive.com/index.php they are talking about this right now on their radio station. I think it will be available for podcast or able to listen if you miss it now.

Hahahahaha oh man!!! I am listening to this right now... they are fighting about the definition of a rave! Holy crap are they getting excited, it's hillarious!

Seriously, download this and listen from 20:00 to 22:00, it's the funniest argument I've heard in a long time!

[XS-NRG]

Originally Posted by ChainReaction

I think that the attack dogs were going overboard though.

I don't. It's in case of riot control plain and simple. Like stated, they had no idea what they were going to be going up against. I've seen up to 5 cops with 1 dog going after 1 crackhead, so why you think it's overboard at something like this is really beyond me.

[Bitsablade]

Originally Posted by ChArBrOiL

Unfortunately neither "ROAR" nor anything else will be able to "do" something about this, as there is nothing to be "done". Unfortunately, all it takes is some posts on some unknown rave message board for thousands of morons on the internet to believe inaccurate hearsay. I'd be more inclined to believe the authorities than a bunch of drugged up ravers anyway. No, the police aren't all evil goons out to get you.

Well we no whos side your on Officer Doffy !!

[fliteman120]

Excuse me?
Last time I checked, in the US it is still legal to have fun. It is still legal to enjoy yourself. It is still legal to listen to good music and have a good time doing it.
There are seriously more injuries/drugs/weapons at heavy metal concerts and shit, yet you don't see them raiding those. What the **** is this country coming to? We have rights, and they were just clearly destroyed. Shot right out of the ****ing water.
They make it sound like raves are a bad thing in that news report. Now I think I see why many times people refuse to accept EDM, because they don't want to be associated with what the news and the government thinks of as bad.

[chisbu]

Originally Posted by ChEeZeBaLL

damn this pisses me off. Get those videos out to the public. I hope this is on the news, although if it is they'll probably twist it to make it sound like the police were doing something good.

Just like the news makes everything look like everybody's doing something good?

[freaknik]

Originally Posted by quixotic42

the world is driven by fear and " grown ups", ladies and gents. Will anyone here deny the massive numbers of deaths related to the "rave scene" (do not attack me I did not just imply that ALL ravers, party kids, edm lovers are druggies)

I'm not attacking you but, what massive death toll are you talking about related to raves?

[DJ Mallorca]

Originally Posted by freaknik

I'm not attacking you but, what massive death toll are you talking about related to raves?

I think the person is questioning the fact that some people have died as a result of drugs....... we could quite easily draw the attention to the amount of deaths caused by smoking and drinking but it's a good taxable drug are those two. Basically we are being tarred with the drugs will kill you brush.......

[freaknik]

Originally Posted by ChArBrOiL

Unfortunately neither "ROAR" nor anything else will be able to "do" something about this, as there is nothing to be "done". Unfortunately, all it takes is some posts on some unknown rave message board for thousands of morons on the internet to believe inaccurate hearsay. I'd be more inclined to believe the authorities than a bunch of drugged up ravers anyway. No, the police aren't all evil goons out to get you.

If you think we are "morons" because we believe (blindly by your reckoning) what we hear from first hand accounts and video, then you would be equally blind in thinking that the authorities couldn't fabricate details or alter the truth.

I hope the truth comes out either way. It all pins on the Permit and if they really had one. If they can trace the permit back then the state of Utah and local police have plenty to worry about.

[freaknik]

Originally Posted by DJ Mallorca

I think the person is questioning the fact that some people have died as a result of drugs....... we could quite easily draw the attention to the amount of deaths caused by smoking and drinking but it's a good taxable drug are those two. Basically we are being tarred with the drugs will kill you brush.......

I was thinking along the same lines and maybe I'm getting caught in the symantics. But I've not heard of a "massive" death toll related to raves. Drugs yes. Deaths from drugs at raves I'm not too sure about. More people get shot over the dealings of drugs than people ODing on them.

And you're right, there are more deaths from cancer from smoking and drunk driving than illegal drugs. Its the legal ones that will get ya.

[Klaymen]

Wow I went to a rave just last weekend, I'm glad that one didn't get shut down. But this was a hard blow for the US raving community.

[Pb]

Some other views for objective eyes:
http://www.harktheherald.com/modules...icle&sid=62786
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Dance_pa...in_Utah%2C_USA

[ediblesound]

Ravers are being intimidated and backed into a corner where it is difficult to appear responsible! Ravers need to step carefully as ravers are being targeted strongly right now and the ice is thin. Exageration costs integrity! Misinformation and disinformation cannot be avoided but wise judgement is quite affordable.

IF WE WANT TO PARTY IN PEACE WE MUST PROMOTE IT!
NEVER GIVE UP


the real fight is still the right of the freedom of consciousness and the freedom to practice the right to gather together in JOY and pursue happiness. THESE RIGHTS ARE BEING STOMPED ON! IN THE NAME OF STOMPING OF THE FREEDOM OF THE INDIVIDUAL MIND!


the government can only strangle itself for so long before it faints!

[Woots Up]

Originally Posted by ediblesound

i remember a grateful dead show in which there were seventeen dumpsters FULL of confiscated MATERIALS OF PEACE. and that's probably a percentage in the single digits of what was there! if they want to find drugs in quantity they are looking IN THE WRONG PLACE! AND HURTING PEOPLE while doing so. i'd like to see what the over forty white male population would say about this happening to a bluegrass show

They would be too well armed..the feds wouldn't stand a chance

[ediblesound]

i believe just as the jam band scene has gained significant acceptance in the american culture, so will this rave phenomenom weather the storm of burrowing it's way into the american way!


PEACE TO ALL PEACEFUL RAVERS


HOUSE FOREVER

THIS WILDFIRE CANNOT BE PUT OUT


THE WIND OF NESSECITY FOR SUCH A OUTLET IS EVER TOO STRONG! so long as there is society, so shall their be all that goes with a healthy groupmind!

[Ambiguity]

We need to get biker dudes interested in EDM.

[ediblesound]

we need to represent ourself responsibly! the biker dudes gave sort of a bad name there for a while!


everybody dance for it!


this is something new! something our own!


WE ARE YOUNG FOREVER IN THE MUSIC


behold the long grayhaired old hippywomen dancing with the energy of an angelic child atop the mountain!

[ediblesound]

Originally Posted by npnp

the problem with pigs is that they live in the gutter with the criminals, so when they crawl out, their distorted perception of the world makes them act like animals.

I just wish there was more love and less hatred in this beautiful world of ours.

I happen to have met many kind hearted people who are police officers doing their job, the problem is not them. Swirls and tulmultous eddies resolve and repeat always. Tis natural and healthy, ride out the flow, why be immature and childish!?

It's akin to Pb's point of grammar being important in how seriously one's purpose is taken. Ever noticed the difference clothing and cleanliness has on the service one recieves in a store or resturaunt? Ever tried to get service while wearing tatters or being obscenely childish in a three piece suit resturaunt?

[quixotic42]

Originally Posted by freaknik

I was thinking along the same lines and maybe I'm getting caught in the symantics. But I've not heard of a "massive" death toll related to raves. Drugs yes. Deaths from drugs at raves I'm not too sure about. More people get shot over the dealings of drugs than people ODing on them.

And you're right, there are more deaths from cancer from smoking and drunk driving than illegal drugs. Its the legal ones that will get ya.

it doesn't have to be a massive number total as long as the ones dying are children ar have left behind enough people to care and raise attention to the scene they are choosing to blame, massive, fine I'll give you hundreds

[Woots Up]

DOH..

[Woots Up]

Originally Posted by ediblesound

(((( SECRETLY ME THINKS THEY ARE JEALOUS THEY ARE NOT YOUNG)))

they might be quietly concerned for the young'uns doing all manner of fierce psychotropic drugs in a field somewhere far from emergency sevices and regular community support especially the girls....