Utah Rave shutdown by Authorities

[ediblesound]

Originally Posted by svenkid

yeah, look at an army training manual, its full of ways to make a person lose his personal identity and adopt the Identity of the total unit or squad

and precisely the same of a rave FRENZY! the thousand bodied organism will always be!

[Bcush]

I dont know where some of you are getting your facts, but there wasnt 3000 people, it was 1000-1200. The police had planned this for weeks. The Utah National Guard was a part of it. National Guard=military. Unfortunately i live right in the middle of it.

[ediblesound]

where you there?
what do you mean the police had planned this for weeks?
was the party planned for weeks too, obviously?

that really sucks!

[LRCN]

some of you people crack me up. it still sucks what happened to those people in utah.

[quixotic42]

Originally Posted by freaknik

I agree it doesn't need to be a massive total. And I agree that attention needs to be focused on issues involving deaths from drugs. But raves aren't the problem. Are you talking deaths from drugs only or are you saying there are hundreds of deaths related to raves specifially?

my point wasn't really about the drug deaths specifically anyways, just that these deaths help to shake up the "grown ups " fears of what the youth of today are getting involved in, and that fear leads to presumption, misinformation and propaganda, which is what fueled such a method used for shutting down a rave (aka, happy peacefull nobodies packing a pistol kinda place) I was upset by the posts people were placing about **** the police and screw the us military, take a look at the whole the misrepresentation of the scene as the those who disagree with it get behind mics and call it violent sex and drug parties, based off of isolated instances, I doubt half the forces used to shut that rave down had ever been to one and were told they were being sent to dispers a Large crowd were there was said to be alot of drugs, dealers and god knows what else those crazy kids have in those oversized pants they wear....damn it i'm late for work again gotta jet love the discussion this rave shut down has caused, we need to stop giving the media any negativity to use against the scen later, I agree with someones earlier statement about the jam band scene, no assault rifles ever coming walking through a dead show ,words been spread there all just peacefull pipers and music lovers coming to have a good time, spread the right vibe,

[Rapter]

Originally Posted by Bcush

I dont know where some of you are getting your facts, but there wasnt 3000 people, it was 1000-1200. The police had planned this for weeks. The Utah National Guard was a part of it. National Guard=military. Unfortunately i live right in the middle of it.

if national guard we're involved... well.. you can say good bye to our freedom because military are NOT allowed to be deployed on national soil(sp.. my spelling is bleh today... >.>) unless its yes, the national guard, but even then, ONLY in a State of Emergency.

[Ambiguity]

Originally Posted by Ambiguity

That freetalklive is a pretty good talk radio station. Not that we can talk about promoting other radio stations, but DI.fm doesn't have a talk radio station so I think it's ok. We should get one though. That would be pretty cool.

Come to think of it...since we can't discuss religon, politics and alike, I doubt the show would have anything to talk to.

[LRCN]

County Sheriff's Media Release

According to the release the National Guard was not involved.

[Toasterman101]

You guys need to use some comon sence. These guys clearly didn't have the required permit and are now trying to cover it up. The idea that the police would go to all the trouble of altering records and creating a conspiracy to shut down a party filled with college kids is absurd. Trust me the police have better things to do. Even if the land owner had a permit, the police can still arrest people for possession.

Truthfully though I have to side with the "drugs are bad" people in this thread. I think x and pot are just a way to show that your a rebel and cool. Though I could care less if ou all want to get high in the middle of noware, but remember that the law is the law and it goes for everyone - it doesn't exempt ravers.

[XS-NRG]

Originally Posted by Woots Up

American youth of today is too busy shopping and computer gaming to protest about their govt waging a war of agression to ensure access to ever dwindling oil reserves. They might start to notice when they get drafted but by then it will be too late

Nicely put.

[LRCN]

according to the party promoters they did have the proper permit. for their sake, i hope they did.

[pinkie]

there are so many sides to this story im not even really bothering keeping tabs on it. apparently there werent permits, apparently there was, apparently there were unsigned permits, apparently this happened, or this, or that. blah blah blah.

[djGT]

Originally Posted by lrcn

according to the party promoters they did have the proper permit. for their sake, i hope they did.

Well, let's hope it doesn't happen to the event we will be playing at next month!

[ediblesound]

I love my country, I love the land and I love the people, and I love raving. I love democracy! I honestly think that ghozt is right thought about the need for research to continue unhindered by foolish fear! The psychological implications and safe applications are yet unexplored properly and safely!

[LRCN]

Originally Posted by djGT

Well, let's hope it doesn't happen to the event we will be playing at next month!

true that. i hope the promoter has his shit together for his event.

[pinkie]

Originally Posted by npnp

so much for FREE COUNTRY!!!

an illegal rave is just that, illegal. free country or not.

[ediblesound]

Let us not forget what this was born out of though! PURE REVOLT/hyjacking of the spoils of INDUSTRIALISM!
of COMMERCIALISM!


As long as there is wasted emptyness there will be the thrust to fill it with something!

While this has faded, something else akin will rise, always.
It's just the way it is! EXCITING! INCITING THRIVING!


"EVERYBODY BE SOMEBODY!"

THE HUMAN SPIRIT IS INEXTINGUISHABLE AS LONG AS YOU THINK

Kids wonder!
Like people are going to stop having kids

"YOU CAN'T KEEP ME FROM RAVING"


LET THE FRENZY LIVE ON!


Next to outlaw is illicit fornication!

[byte]

Originally Posted by pinkie

there are so many sides to this story im not even really bothering keeping tabs on it. apparently there werent permits, apparently there was, apparently there were unsigned permits, apparently this happened, or this, or that. blah blah blah.

Obviously the permits issue is sketchy. It doesn't matter. The whole point of this is that such excessive force was unnecesary: tear gas, assault rifles, canine attacks, police brutality etc.


From the press release:

Parents need to be aware of the type of illegal activities that occurs at these type of gathering. Sexual assaults, rapes, overdoses, drugs, alcohol abuse, thefts, and firearms violations.

Yes! Parents please read this! Do not let your sons/daughters attend raves. Obviously you have been living in a cave if you do. Everyone knows that people only go to raves to get sexually assaulted and raped, overdose and do drugs etc. at these type(s) of gathering(s).

[byte]

I don't know if anyone mentioned, but President Bush was in Salt Lake City on Monday. Coincidence?

"Gotta look good for Daddy Bush!"

[pitchedUP]

Originally Posted by byte

The whole point of this is that such excessive force was unnecesary: tear gas, assault rifles, canine attacks, police brutality etc.

The reason for that "excessive force" is because the police treated this as some sort of riot, in case things got out of hand during the raid. There were thousands of people and a handful of police, and they had to use everything neccesary to control the crowd. I do not know about the police brutality, but what happened if that person punched the police officer. What would you do if your a police officer trying to subdue someone thats trying to fight you, you have to take them out.